Wednesday, December 26, 2007

Marxist Interpretations of Ayn Rand

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Upload Time: 2007-11-03 13:05:16
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On the Consensual Trampling of Workers by Capitalists

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DRMABUSA ::: Favorites  2007-12-23 01:22:51

THE GREAT JihaD on the CAPITALISTS ****TRUTH OF 911****: In the capitalist totalitarian period, "conventional" opposition to the prevailing form of life is impotent and ineffective. please Google: cfi nostradamus usa The article can be found on the Center for Inquiry website, philosophy section. see the D.M. video on top of the WTC. They are singing ENJOY THE SILENCE which is *ABOUT* the Second Coming.... Read from beginning
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qtronman ::: Favorites  2007-11-15 18:53:01

Indeed.
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tj2tone ::: Favorites  2007-11-15 17:21:07

You selectively define 'coerce', 'liberty', and so on. You would label it coercion to use state power to transform private property into social property; I would call want and hunger and more pure form of coercion than that. It's a fundamental clash of values.
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Elhan2005 ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 22:22:31

I think what he means is that she had her own views on society and how individuals ought to relate, not some mystical view of society.
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Elhan2005 ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 22:20:47

Similarly, you can till a farm or starve. Nature is so oppressive... :(
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threeofwands ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 19:11:22

exist, independent, entity, real, and real world are all hugely loaded terms over which one can (and many do)write volumes of learned scribble. the basic requirement for "living" as i understand it, is the production of waste material by the organism (hence material conditions). ergo "constructs". recognizable continuity over time is fleeting and there is always a termination point.
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qtronman ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 18:45:11

A construct? Are you, yourself, a mere "construct" or do you actually exist as an independent, living, biological entity in the real world?
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threeofwands ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 18:40:02

why do so many of the more interesting youtube thinkers live in Canada? well, in my view the Individual is as much a construct as Society is, if not more so. therein lies my focal agreement with Marx, inasmuch as these constructs are only made possible by material conditions.
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qtronman ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 18:27:09

Rand does not primarily "consider society in general," as Marx does. She is not a collectivist, as Marx is. She considers the individual above all; not the group. Free societies, such as the United States and Canada (where I live), have very large job markets, with many thousand employers, in hundreds of fields. It is, in the long term, up to the individual to find work he enjoys. In the short term, his options may be more limited.
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threeofwands ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 18:21:37

"hate" is a different question. considering society in general (in the way that Marx and Rand do, for example) one comes across instances in which people do not have very good choices when it comes to what type of work they must do to survive. i do not believe that there is anything inherently "evil" about this, its just a fact.
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qtronman ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 17:45:34

I don't consider productivity enslavement; I consider it a virtue of life. Do you hate thought and effort so much that you'd rather not work?
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threeofwands ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 17:44:05

that was cool that you actually had your work contract in hand. well, it may be true that you are "free" to engage in a contractual agreement with a specific employer, but your're not really "free" from searching for employment. the only freedom we have in that sense is the freedom to starve.
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qtronman ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 16:13:00

Great, now that's settled, you can fuck off.
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0neironaut ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 15:56:22

hes obviously being sarcastic you dumb ass!
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Inaissance ::: Favorites  2007-11-06 07:02:39

Why don't I bore a hole in the front of ScientificDisgusting's head and let the hemlock sap run out $!)
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